DS 62: Discuss Danish Muhammed Cartoons

Digital Strips : Show 62
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This episode has Zampzon and Phil taking out the pitchforks and pooring alcohol on their torches. That’s the last time Zampzon drinks 3 Guiness before a show. If you’re wondering where Daku is he is the one playing both sides laughing in the background.
In this episode we talk about:

  • Danish Muhammed Cartoons
  • Addendum: I just thought I’d add a couple of links here that were mentioned during the show. The Comics Reporter has been following the story very well. Here is the link to Phil’s site where his readers have been debating the same issues. Also, check out the Cagle site for a large collection of political cartoons from various published political cartoonists that are about the same situation.

    – Z


    7 thoughts on “DS 62: Discuss Danish Muhammed Cartoons

    1. Poor Daku, nobody can hear him.

      I want to comment on this whole thing. I see both Zampzon and Phil\’s points.

      We had a similar (albeit on a much, much smaller scale) situation at the paper I work at. We printed an ad that upset a lot of people, mostly because of religious reasons. A lot of people demanded that we stop running the ad. We didn\’t because it\’s never suppose to be the paper\’s job to serve as the community\’s conscience.

      That being said, the freedom of speech also includes the right to remain silent, which is often the most prudent course of action. Whether a paper runs a particular item is up to that paper. The editor staff will (hopefully) carefully consider how something will effect the region they print in. If they choose to run it, I support that, but I also support a paper\’s decision not to.

      At the end of the day, you have to remember these comics, and all comics for that matter, are more than just ink on paper. They\’re ideas. And while ideas can\’t really hurt anyone, the certain rile people up.

      Like I said, I totally see both sides of the argument. I\’m loving the debate that\’s come out of this whole thing. Now if we could just get rid of the rioting. Those rioting are only perpetuating the images that are hurting peaceful Muslim communities around the world.

      That\’s just my take.

    2. 2 facts that should be noted –
      1. A reason this story picked up after so many months is because a propagandist added extra-offensive cartoons to the batch which never actually ran.
      2. American newspapers largely aren\’t keeping the comics from print specifically for the extremists. It\’s for respect for Islamic Americans. They are, after all, offensive to Muslims in general, not just the ones on the other side of the world. Television stations don\’t rerun Sinead O\’Connor tearing up a picture of the Pope on SNL to respect Catholics. Likewise, newspapers shouldn\’t have to offend a percentage of their population and impact their distribution if they don\’t want to.

    3. For those who think with freedom there is responsibility, consider this: printing pictures of abuse at Abu Ghraib sparks outrage and violence over the world by muslims – should those pictures not be printed?

      Couldn\’t that just have been described?

      When an artist makes a painting of a Christian religious symbol out of elephant dung, should that be reported?

      Does anyone worry about crossing the Jewish idea that you shouldn\’t write the name of God idly because it\’s a sin if the paper it\’s written on is destroyed? It gets printed everywhere.

      What\’s the difference to you who argue that responsibility means not exercising freedom because it could cause violence? The violence.

      There\’s a Ben Franklin quote about freedom y\’all should look up.

      As for blaming the cartoons or the people printing them? That\’s like blaming the victim when a rape is committed.

      As for the papers not printing it? Nice of them to be sensitive, except for the hypocrisy of not printing these yet printing other offensive things. Printing the cartoons would have been a show of solidarity, and good reporting so that their audience could know what caused so much violence.

      (off topic – Phil\’s blog never loads for me!)

    4. Political Correctness is nothing more than others wanting to control your speech. Furthermore, We can\’t control the behavior of others. Only ourselves. I refuse to bow to the demands of religious extremists of ANY religion as to what I can say, write or print. There is a responsibility to report BOTH sides of any story. To do otherwise is to capitulate to those who would control you. You GIVE UP your Rights, freely and gladly if you allow others to tell you how to speak, write or publish.

      If you don\’t jealously guard your Freedoms, and you lose them…you deserve it. Free Government requires active participation of the governed. Don\’t let ANYONE tell you how to speak, how to think or what to believe.

    5. I agree that we should print what we want because we have that freedom, but you\’re never going to see a major newspaper printing all of the questionable cartoons. It\’s just a bad business move. Period. Heck, the only TV station to even show the cartoons was Pat Robertson\’s. Even Fox News wouldn\’t go there

    6. Never one to miss a chance to promote our own webcomic, here\’s what a local newspaper in Athens, GA, had to say about \”That Darn Chauncey\” and the Muhammad controversy…

      From Flagpole Magazine, Athens GA –

      \”However, these tactless Danes are not alone in flouting the convention of not picturing the prophet. Responding to the clarion call (and promised publicity), That Darn Chauncey,one of the web\’s most popular and consistently clever comics, adapted its minimalist form to depict a stick figure named \”That Wacky Muhammad\” and his sidekick \”Frank, The Magical Talking Fox.\” While Chauncey has since returned to the center of his eponymous cartoon, the momentary aberration remains in the vast archives (just stroll backwards a few clips) at http://www.stupidchildren.com, alongside an impressive collection of news articles about stupid children.\”

      And here is the comic they were talking about. Where\’s my international media attention, damnit ?

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